Bloodlines, Richard III and the Golden Fleece

I saw the news that Richard III’s bones had been discovered, and apparently confirmed to have belonged to him. Also DNA analysis revealed that one of his relatives, Edward III, Richard’s great-great-great grandfather if I understand correctly, had had a son who was not actually his but another man’s. John of Gaunt was not actually related to the Plantagenet House of York dynasty, but to others. And from his offspring was spawned the House of Tudor, which ruled England for a long time. There’s even a TV series about them that I have not watched.

This discovery of different lineage apparently puts into the question the of legitimacy the Tudors and the current Queen of England’s claim to the throne. While this is all intriguing it got me thinking about other stuff: the story we are given about Richard III.

And don’t take my word for the connections between these houses and bloodlines. I may misunderstand some details.

We are given the story that Richard III was a terrible person. He killed two children to usurp the throne, one of them was Edward V, the rightful king of England. After two years of rule Richard III was defeated by Henry Tudor in battle. Shakespeare even made a play about it. “A horse, a horse, my kingdom for a horse.” I suggest looking into what Joseph Atwill said about Shakespeare.

As we all know, but seldom believe, is that history is written by the victors. What if Richard III wasn’t such a bad guy after all? We do not know he killed the two boys. What if, for example, he knew them and himself were under threat from another faction like the Tudors. Perhaps he simply sent the boys to a safe, secluded location to protect them and assumed to throne for the same purpose. I don’t know if that happened, but we shouldn’t trust the description of his enemies either. But it’s possible Richard III got the Hitler treatment.

Anyway, Henry VII defeated Richard III and became king. I’m no expert when it comes to English heraldry and history, I just recognize some familiar names, so I decided look what Wikipedia says about him. Right there is a painting of Henry VII with the description that he’s wearing the collar of the Order of the Golden Fleece. I wondered what’s that then and clicked the link. Sounds like a not-so-secret society.

The Order of the Golden Fleece received his name from the Greek myth of Jason and the Argonauts. The Order “is an order of chivalry founded in Bruges by Philip III, Duke of Burgundy in 1430, to celebrate his marriage to the Portuguese princess Infanta Isabella of Portugal, daughter of King John I of Portugal. It became one of the most prestigious orders in Europe.” Sounds boring but later it’s said:

“It [the Order] received further privileges unusual to any order of knighthood: the sovereign undertook to consult the order before going to war; all disputes between the knights were to be settled by the order; at each chapter the deeds of each knight were held in review, and punishments and admonitions were dealt out to offenders, and to this the sovereign was expressly subject; the knights could claim as of right to be tried by their fellows on charges of rebellion, heresy and treason, and Charles V conferred on the order exclusive jurisdiction over all crimes committed by the knights; the arrest of the offender had to be by warrant signed by at least six knights, and during the process of charge and trial he remained not in prison but in the gentle custody of his fellow knights.”

Reminds me of a clique of internationalists with no allegiance to any nation but to each other. Also possibly in sense the Order has inherited at least some traits from the Knights Templar. Also: “Who, to carry off the fleece of Colchis [the destination of the Argonauts], was willing to commit perjury.”

Nowadays the Order of the Golden Fleece is split into the two orders: the Spanish and the Austrian Order. (Like Freemasons?) Wikipedia lists the living members of the order. The Spanish Order in particular was quite interesting. It mention royals like the king of Spain, princess Beatrix of the Netherlands, and even the emperor of Japan and king of Thailand. But then there’s Javier Solana and Nicolas Sarkozy, the former president of France. What the? I thought the order was only for royalty. I recognized the name Javier Solana from the news and stuff although wasn’t that sure who he was. Wikipedia says he was “European Union’s High Representative for Common Foreign and Security Policy, Secretary General of the Council of the European Union and Secretary-General of the Western European Union”.

So what is the Order of the Golden Fleece? It has been part of European royalty for 500 years and now has spread to Asia too. And it has regular politicians and bureaucrats in it too. Seems like an important thing. I don’t remember even conspiracy researchers talking about it, which doesn’t mean that they haven’t. It simply means they haven’t talked about it so much that it has stuck in my memory.

One comment on royalty and their bloodlines before I finish. It’s often assumed in the conspiracy theorist world that all their bloodlines are evil reptilians shapeshifters, either literally or figuratively. I am not convinced its that simple. I’m more leaning to the story that the origin of these royal bloodlines is something more benign, but it was infiltrated by the literal/figurative reptilians. Passing the English throne from the Plantagenets to the Tudors may be such an occurrence.



Does Richard III’s DNA question Queen’s right to the throne? Hunchback king’s genetic comparison with distant cousins reveals an illegitimate child in royal family tree:

Richard III:

Monty Python, Hospital for over acting, Richard III ward:

Joseph Atwill on Shakespeare’s Secret Messiah:

Henry VII:

Order of the Golden Fleece:

Javier Solana:


3 thoughts on “Bloodlines, Richard III and the Golden Fleece”

  1. Dous any body know anything of THE KNIGHTS OF THE ORDER OF CONCORDIA? If so I would love to know.
    S Mac Pheadar

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