Red Ice and the Alt Right

Red Ice Creations was probably the best alternative media site on the internet a few years back, and I was subscribed to them for several years. However, the website’s quality has been gradually going downhill since they joined the Alt Right, maybe six months to a year ago. Don’t get me wrong, I think most of the guests on Red Ice still these days have been pretty decent, but I just see Red Ice slowly heading toward its doom.

One reason for this is that Red Ice has gotten as famous as it is now. There are all sorts of people who see something nice that others have created and assimilate it into their own network. The Alt Right assimilation is just the latest example of this, but in my opinion it has happened before, but Red Ice managed to evade subversion before. In 2014, Henrik Palmgren, the voice of Red Ice Creations, was asked to host the Secret Space Program conference, and he interviewed many, if not all, of the participants. The idea of a Breakaway Civilization of humans out there in space being funded by governmental Black Projects sounds fascinating alright, but I’ve come to regard it as far-fetched and hypothetical at best. I’m suspicious of some people promoting that stuff, while I’m not saying that every presenter in the conference were a disinformant.

I think the Secret Space Program people dragged Henrik Palmgren into their conference both as a way of promoting the conference, but also as a way of subverting Red Ice from objective research into promoting certain narratives.

In recent years Red Ice has shifted their focus from esoteric conspiracy theories to more practical matters. I agree with this, since the problem with conspiracy theories is not the word conspiracy but theory. It’s something theoretical, hypothetical and conspiracy theorists tend to merely discuss issues, instead of doing something about it (myself included). So when I first discovered the Alt Right I was pleased, since they seemed like they were more practically minded traditional and conservative people who get things done. I’ve since come to the understanding that they’re not.

It has been said before by several people, but the inescapable conclusion is that the Alt Right are the other side of the Cultural Marxists. Both groups have a simplified, digital view of the world and they care more about their virtue signalling, edginess and posturing than actually fixing things. The difference is that Cultural Marxists are effeminate and only see the worst parts of Western culture, and the Alt Right are masculine (often their hypermasculinity extends into homosexuality) and see only the best parts of Western culture. There is big difference between promoting European culture and history, and Alt Right’s cookie cutter notion of Whiteness. For this reason I wish that Red Ice renounced their Alt Right associations.

While so far I do despite their Alt Right associates Henrik has been doing a decent job, and making worthwhile interviews, I fear his Alt Right company will drag him down with them. I am more concerned about some of the things his wife, Lana Lokteff of Radio 3Fourteen, has been saying, though.

In her interview with Sencha MacRae, Sencha was going to say something about Donald Trump being controlled opposition, but Lana turned it around and started saying something like Trump is the manifestation of the desire of White people, or something to that effect, I forget the details. I agree with Lana that people are burning to find a leader, but she should realize that Trump ain’t it. He is practically an actor there to misguide you. Being the wife of the head of Red Ice, Lana should be able to recognize this simple conspiracy fact.

Then at the end of her inteview with Walter T. Richmond she was saying something like Americans should return to their homeland of Europe. That just pissed me off. I’m against mass-immigration. I do not want troves of immigrants from any country into Europe, not from Africa or the Middle-East, not even from East-Asia (which I am fond of), and not from America. You created the problems that you face in America, you fix them. Don’t bring them here.

And last, and certainly not least, is Lana Lokteff’s interview with Greg Johnson on gayness and Alt Right. I already made a post pointing out the dishonesty of Greg Johnson in the way he promotes homosexuality. In the interview with Lana he was explaining his views on homosexuality, and they seem reasonable enough, such as the fact that some people simply seem to be born homosexual, and this has been going on since time immemorial so there’s no need to fuss over it. I agree, however this isn’t what Greg Johnson was doing in his article “Gay Panic on the Alt Right”. Matt Heimbach and Matt Parrott were excluded from an Alt Right conference, because of anti-homosexual views, and Johnson was pretending this wasn’t the case. If he wants to have a discussion about the role of homosexuality in the Alt Right, I’d be happy with it, but the Alt Right does not do so, instead they outright censor people who speak out against homosexuality, and then pretend like they didn’t. Moreover, they are blatantly anti-Christianity. For a movement that’s supposedly revolutionary and politically correct, they do seem to agree a lot with Obama’s policies of promoting homosexuality and oppressing Christians. I wouldn’t be surprised if some members Alt Right started supporting Satanism a few months from now.

Had the two Matts said something like gays should be sent into concentration camps or drowned in a bog, I’d understand if the Alt Right wanted to exlude them. But I haven’t seen any evidence that they were advocating any crazy, extremist views such as these. Therefore, I can only conclude that the Alt Right wants to promote homosexuality and stifle criticism of it.

The worst part of the interview is that Lana Lokteff was agreeing with Greg Johnson and promoting his message. All I can say about Lana is that I don’t trust her judgement. She may have the best of intentions, but you know what the road to hell is paved with.

Unless Red Ice Creations takes a quick U-turn I expect it to lose relevance in a year or two as it’ll degenerate into some sort of in-group circle jerk of Alt Right. I’m sure their new audience is pressuring them into promoting Trump as well (and of course he is a better option than Hillary, Bernie or Cruz, but that isn’t saying much). I’m sure many decent people are drawn into the Alt Right, especially since the main stream offers little solutions nor sanity, but the Alt Right is not a real alternative. It’s a distraction at best.

 

Links:

Sencha MacRae – The Russian Bolshevik Revolution: http://www.redicecreations.com/radio3fourteen/2016/R314-160309.php

Walter T. Richmond – “Refugee Crisis” Propaganda: What You’re Not Being Told: http://www.redicecreations.com/radio3fourteen/2016/R314-160224.php

Greg Johnson – Straight But Not Narrow Nationalism: Gays, Women & The Manosphere: http://www.redicecreations.com/radio3fourteen/2016/R314-160330.php

Alt-Right just seems getting gayer; i.e. Common Filth did nothing wrong: https://concordiaabchao.wordpress.com/2016/03/22/alt-right-just-seems-getting-gayer-i-e-common-filth-did-nothing-wrong/

Gay Panic on the Alt Right: http://www.counter-currents.com/2016/03/gay-panic-on-the-alt-right/

We’re Here. We’re Not Queer. Get Used To It.: http://www.tradyouth.org/2016/03/were-here-were-not-queer-get-used-to-it/

 

 

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5 thoughts on “Red Ice and the Alt Right”

  1. when I said this exact same thing to you a few months ago you didn’t seem too happy, but this article is what I meant to convey, whether or not that came across then.

      1. I’m happy to see Woes has started doing his older style of videos again after a patch of just focusing a bit much on alt right stuff. He applies a lot more rigor to his stuff than you see normally online. A lot of people seem to be coming over to the grumpy rationalist side because of his work, so that’s a good thing, overall.

  2. Red Ice still very much does their own thing. They’ve been around 10 years with drastic changes and will continue to exist. I love that they interview a wide range of proWhites, many who hate each other and bicker over differences but Red Ice is the bridge. RIR talks about 911, conspiracy, alt health and more that is far from Alt-Right. Sounds like you have an issue with Lana but then listen to everything she does. She never said Trump was the great white hope. That is wrong completely. People like you who pick on minor differences instead of uniting on big picture are part of the problem.

    1. The conspiracy research on Red Ice has become somewhat marginalized, at least secondary when it comes to promoting their political views. Although I don’t think Henrik Palmgren believes in Trump, it’s obvious that many of his new friends do, and this reflects onto the whole site.

      Please do not make assumptions or baseless claims about me, such as accusing me of listening to everything Lana does. Nor did I claim that Lana said Trump is the “great white hope” either. I recommend actually listening to the Sencha MacRae interview I mentioned to know what she said about Trump. You have to pay close attention to what people are actually saying, since the devil is in the details, and don’t just jump onto someone’s bandwagon if they seem to be on the same side.

      You are part of the problem since you do not seem to care about the significant details, such as certain individuals in the Alt-Right pushing homosexuality in an underhanded manner while pretending they aren’t.

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