Flat Earth Drama and Shilling

There has been some “drama” among flat earthers as of late, and everyone likes to say they don’t like drama, but I do. Seeing people fight on the internet can be quite entertaining, yet the thing about internet drama is that it is mostly entertainment and does not provide much relevant information, so I usually try to stay away from it.

 

The Drama

For me this started with Flat Earth Asshole’s video, that I discussed in my previous post, how he pointed out the how the azimuthal equidistant map and the circular movement model of the sun do not work. This is not the drama, as FEA made several cogent arguments. The drama is that apparently two prominent flat earthers, Mark Sargent and Patricia Steere, have been exposed as shills or something by Youtuber MGTV, whose channel was shortly taken down. I call this bit drama, since who didn’t figure out those two were shills two years ago?

It appears Sargent and Steere are working for a corporation, Metatron Inc, and they apparently have some sort of cellphone app made by Metatron Inc, that is probably spying on you. The kicker is that MGTV found out that the apps of both people were made back in 2010, long before either of them became interested in the flat earth. I’m not sure how the manufacture of these apps work, but I presume you can change the name of the app afterwards, so they probably did not refer to the flat earth back in 2010.

I theorize that both Sargent and Steere were some sort of intelligence assets back in 2010, and they were set to infiltrate the “truth movement”. Back then they or their handlers just weren’t sure what sort of angle they should be pushing. In 2014, the flat earth sprung up and they saw their chance.

 

Ultimately though, it doesn’t matter what the backstory of these two people is, therefore I call it drama, since it should have been obvious long ago that these people are sketchy, especially Patricia Steere. I think I watched her interview with Rob Skiba back in the day, and saw little reason watch any of her other stuff. Speaking of her, there are even some people saying that she is a tranny, that she is not a 50-something woman, but a 20-something man. I’m not sure if I believe that or not, but it doesn’t seem too far-fetched either.

Yet, it’s not only Mark and Pat that are suspicious in the flat earth community, which should not be a surprise. I take it as granted that whenever there any kind of new movement or subculture, most people are initially against it, but as it refuses to die and gains popularity all sorts of parasitic people will appear. Some people don’t really care about the movement or subculture itself, but they care about the attention, or they find someway to make money off of it. When you add conspiracy theories to the mix, you’ll bound to get some sort of alphabet soup infiltrators or shills. I find most of the prominent Youtubers on flat earth to be suspicious.

 

Founding Fathers of Flat Earth

In the beginning, there were three major flat earthers on Youtube: Eric Dubay, Math Powerland, and Mark Sargent. Very early on I saw an Eric Dubay video where he showed Math Powerland ranting against anti-Semitism, so I could never take him seriously. Eric Dubay on the other hand, did make several good flat earth videos back in 2014-2015, but nowadays he’s mostly irrelevant, and I’m pretty sure he’s crooked too. So all of these “founding fathers” of modern flat earth research are untrustworthy. And to top it off, Eric Dubay has been exposing many of the as shills from the beginning, although Math Powerland on the other hand claimed Dubay is a shill. What was their game?

If all three were ultimately being controlled by the same source, I suppose the game was that conspiracy researchers probably would not fall for the act of all three of them, so different kind of characters would have to be put in place. Eric Dubay had this intellectual and reserved way of doing his thing. Math Powerland was like a rebellious rock star or something. And Mark Sargent, I suppose (I haven’t watched much of his stuff, to be honest), was laid back and non-confrontational. Back in the day, I prefered Dubay’s style, and also I at least knew who he was before he got into flat earth research. I didn’t know much about him, except he was some sort of conspiracy researcher, and I recall seeing him on the David Icke forum when I used to hang around there too. Sargent on the other hand just popped out of nowhere as some sort of expert. And Math Powerland seemed too Zionist for me.

Or maybe those three are actually controlled by different agencies, and are in some sort of competition with each other. For example, Dubay is CIA, Powerland is Zionist/Hollywood and Sargent and Steere are Masons. Ultimately, though, it does not matter, as long as you recognize that these people are untrustworthy.

 

Flat Earth Roll-out

Flat Earth Asshole, one of the honest flat earthers in my opinion, pointed out that flat earth has been rolled out on purpose by The Powers That Be. He’s probably right. Why else would Obama say in public “We don’t have time for the meeting of the flat earth society”? Why would celebrities like B.O.B. and Shaquille O’Neill be talking about it? There was even Dr. David Agus who mentioned that the earth is flat a couple of times on CBS interviews, although he is supposed to be talking about the Zika virus. They way he just blurts out “the earth is flat” sounds like mind control. Also once he says: “The world is flat. There needs to be global governance.” It’s just weird. I suppose he’s trying to make the listener to associate flat earth with the need for global governance. I don’t think that guy is just an honest man trying to tell the truth.

 

So if the masters of our universe are pushing flat earth, does it mean it’s all a hoax then? Is the earth a spinning globe? I don’t think so. One possible reason is that the projections of the intelligence agencies told them back in 2014 that people are beginning to figure out that we have been lied about the shape and nature of the earth. Suppressing discussion about it would be albeit impossible, so the best they can do is either hi-jack the discussion or poison the well.

I should point out that discussion of the flat earth existed on the internet before Eric Dubay came out with his research in Autumn 2014. I do think Dubay popularized the topic, but he certainly wasn’t the first one to talk about it. In fact I wrote about the flat earth already in February 2014, over six months before Dubay’s Youtube videos. I am not claiming I had anything to do with making flat earth the popular topic it is today, but only to point out people were already discussing it. My article “The Earth is Flat!” starts off with:

“Last night I saw a Truther Girls video on Youtube featuring Arron the Barbarian, husband of truther girl Sonya. The video was called ‘Why Do People Think The Earth Is Flat?’.”

Apparently Arron and Sonya also had walked in on a priorly existing discussion on the flat earth. The debate was already going on before Dubay started talking about it. Based on what I’ve heard Math Powerland talked about the flat earth on Youtube back in 2012, and he might have been the first person on Youtube to talk about it, but it does not mean he was the first one on the internet to do so. I don’t know who was, but supposedly there were people back in the nineties already talking about it, and not just the controlled opposition Flat Earth Society.

So I don’t think the flat earth notion, which is basically that there does not seem to be curvature, and that NASA and other official agencies have lied about the shape of the earth, is a psy-op or a controlled roll-out. I do think the origin of the discussion is genuine, and there are plenty of genuine people out there talking about it, but I do think The Powers That Be have inserted many half-truths and infiltrators into the mix. Although the phrase “flat earth” might ultimately end up being a misnomer or a psy-op, since maybe the earth is not flat. I don’t think it’s a spinning ball, but maybe there is another model that is more accurate. I understand that it sounds better to say “the earth is flat” than “there appears to be a distinct lack of curvature when it comes to the earth”, yet we should question even this sort of assumptions and popularized expressions.

 

The Conference

Speaking of infiltrators, I learned from Flat Earth Asshole’s video that there is going to be flat earth conference in North Carolina November 9-10. I didn’t even know about it, since I tend not to pay too much attention to these e-celebrities. Among the speakers are Patricia Steere and Mark Sargent. Youtuber ODD TV was planning on attending the conference until he learned about Steere and Sargent’s apparent shillery. Now he won’t. Kudos to him, I like ODD and I’d like to think he is genuine, and at least his behaviour does seem to affirm that he is. The other people who are going to the conference though, are even more suspect now. I don’t really know who many of them are, for some of them I have a vague idea, but the one that saddens me a bit is Rob Skiba. I started following his work before he was even into flat earth, and he seems like a decent guy. His style is very non-confrontational, so I don’t expect him to call out Sargent or Steere the same way that FEA or ODD did, yet it does undermine his credibility to a certain extent if he goes along with the whole thing.

Overall, especially if any kind of flat earther or conspiracy researcher is famous, it’s probably safe to assume they are crooked, until proven otherwise.

 

Links:

I am not saying that Patricia Steere is a mid 50’s tranny JERANISM, IPS, ODD, DITRH, ERIC DUBAY: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_1-SazpHPM

The End of the FAKE Flat Earth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvryGzjPpz8

Flat Earth – Dividing The TRUTH From The LIES: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8HsXDEokGk

Flat Earth Potato Clues | Mark Sargent & Patricia Steere | Shills: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGWK1pmti54

The Earth is Flat!: https://concordiaabchao.wordpress.com/2014/02/07/the-earth-is-flat/

Flat Earth conference attendees: http://fe2017.com/featuring/

 

 

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Boycott the Flat Earth AE map?

The youtuber Flat Earth Asshole uploaded a video yesterday pointing out how the azimuthal equidistant flat earth model is inaccurate due to how the sun behaves. I myself tried to figure out too some time ago how the sun supposedly moves on the circular flat earth model, and it didn’t make sense to me. According popular theories the sun goes around in circles around the disc of the earth as is shown in the picture below, but FEA points out in the video how it does not work based on the actual behaviour of the sun. I recommend watching the video.

 

Angle of the Sun

In his video Flat Earth Asshole refers to the website, SunCalc, which shows the location where the sun rises and sets in each location on earth. The video also shows a couple of film clips from Australia that seem to confirm the website’s information is accurate, at least in Australia. There is a consistent theme on SunCalc, that the sun always seems to rise from the south-east and set in south-west. The difference is that nearer the center, or the equator, the angle in which the sun heads south-west is more flat, whereas near the north pole and down south near Antarctica, the angle is more steep.

Below is how the angle is in Australia. Europe, the Americas, Africa and Asia have the same angle. The yellow line on the right represents sunrise, and the red line on the left represents sunset.

Below is the steep angle in Antarctica.

Below is the steep angle in Greenland up in the north.

 

I suggest checking out SunCalc and playing around with it for a while to understand it better. It is fairly simple to use.

 

Sun heads to Antarctica?

Based on SunCalc, assumming it is correct, it would suggest the sun is always coming from south-east in the morning and it sets in the south-west. The sun is coming from Antarctica and heading towards Antarctica? It doesn’t make sense. Or does it?

One theory I came up with, which seems compatible with the azimuthal equidistant map, is that maybe the sun is actually located above the alleged ice ring in Antarctica. It circles around the circle of the earth clockwise once each day. It acts like a big directed spotlight. When it summer on the southern “hemisphere”, the spotlight of the sun is projected toward the tropic of Capricorn. See the image below.

 

When it’s summer on the northern “hemisphere”, the spotlight shines on the tropic of Cancer.

 

It might be that this theory is dumb and easily refuted, but so far it’s the best model that I can conceive of based on observation. The regular sun models on the AE map don’t work, but I don’t think the earth is a sphere either. The fact that water does not curve in reality as it does on the pictures of the globe is proof of that. So maybe we don’t need to discard the AE map just yet?

My aim is not to defend the azimuthal equidistant projection. I’ve never accepted it as the gospel. I am simply trying to understand how things work.

I did try to think of alternative models based on the SunCalc-supported notion that the sun is always coming from south-east and heading south-west. If the AE map is wrong and SunCalc is correct then it would suggest that all of our maps are significantly false. They are not simple inaccurate to a certain extent, but the shapes of the continents and their locations are very different to we are shown in both the spherical model and the AE map.

I was trying to figure out a flat earth model that wasn’t like the AE disc. This is the best I could come up with.

 

As can be seen, this model is very rough, but the basic idea is that the sun come from the east and is heading south-west. After going past the Americas, it heads into the Antarctic, possibly going underground. The problem is that there is always day somewhere on earth, and if the sun is in the Antarctic or underground, how can there be daylight somewhere else? My only solution is that there are two suns, which is one possibility that Flat Earth Asshole mentioned in one of his older videos. One sun goes underground and the other rises somewhere in the east. If this model is correct, it would suggest there is something to the myth of the Black Sun.

The problem is, however, that Kamchatka in eastern Russia and Alaska in North America are nearly connected. So the map shown above cannot be correct, since those two parts are far from enough. Moreover if it looks like the sun is always coming from south-east, you’d have to rotate or mutate the continents into something completely different.

 

Conclusion

I do think that the Flat Earth Asshole made a great videos poking holes in the commonly held flat earth theories, and he called out some flat earthers for pushing this questionable narrative. Yet maybe it’s not time to retire the AE map just yet. I certainly don’t think the map is 100% accurate, probably nobody does, however maybe the basic idea depicted on the map is correct, but just the theories about the movement of the sun are faulty. At least so far, the alternatives to a flat earth round disc model that I can think of seem very far-fetched and go into Möbius strip kind of scifi territory.

Flat Earth Asshole rightly suggested in his video that it’s better not to have any model than a faulty one. So I’m curious to see what people have to say about my sun circulating around the Antarctic ice ring-model. It is entirely possible that I am not the first one to come up with this idea, but I don’t recall anyone else mentioning this possible explanation for the movement of the sun.

 

Links:

The End of the FAKE Flat Earth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvryGzjPpz8

SunCalc: http://suncalc.net

More Las Vegas Mysteries

The only certainly about the Las Vegas shooting where a 64-year old man, Stephen Paddock, allegedly killed 59 people and injured over 500 is that official story doesn’t make sense, which is nothing new to mass shootings or terrorist attacks. I’ve seen conspiracy theory Youtubers argue over whether it was a hoax or a false flag, i.e. did people really die. While it is an important question, the main focus should be on trying to find out what actually happened, and which claims of the main stream media and the government can be proven false or logically inconsistent.

Most of the witnesses who claim to have seen people being killed are not credible, and sound like actors. There are also a few photos showing bloodied people, as well as a couple of videos, yet I am not convinced by them. This does not imply that no-one died however. I think there is a good possibility that some did, but I am very doubtful that the people the media claims died did, or that they died the way the media says they did. There are also people on the internet claiming that they knew some of the dead people, and some of them might even be telling the truth. Yet simply claiming on the internet that you know someone who died is not proof.

 

The Video

There is one video, that was supposedly first uploaded to Liveleak, where a man goes around in the arena in Las Vegas checking people’s pulses. There are blood and dead bodies in, and it does seem fairly realistic, yet I am not convinced. I would not blame people for believing it to be real, but I think is fake. I think it’s been removed from Liveleak, and it can be difficult to find now. I downloaded a copy of it, and I will show a couple of snapshots of it, which are quite graphic. I supposed I could upload it somewhere if someone can point me to a website where I could do just that.

WARNING GRAPHIC IMAGES

 

The beginning of the video shows blood on the floor that is suspiciously red. It looks fake to me, and I’ve seen someone comment, who claimed to be a nurse or something, that they think the same way. Yet someone pointed out that arterial blood is more is more red, whereas venous blood is darker. It could be arterial blood, but would there be this much of it?

Soon after that the video shows a dead girl lying on the ground, and camera man checks her pulse and even moves her arm. This is probably the main reason some people think the video is real. Yet certainly modern Hollywood productions  can look as realistic as this.

 

The blood still looks fake to me. Moreover, the video overall seems to be made with intention of trying prove people died there: “Look, look. I’m walking around here. There’s bodies and blood. This must all be real.” You can say I’m jaded, but I still don’t buy it.

There’s another video show by Raymond Page, “a Clark County employee”, going toward the arena when people are fleeing it. While many of the people running away are probably genuine, that video especially seems somewhat choreographed. In the end of the video there’s a man with a bloody arm and also some blood on his torso. Yet image is too dark to see if there is an actual bullet wound on the arm. Moreover, paramedics start treating the guy, and then the cameraman leaves. This seems to me like a production. They show you just enough to shock you, but don’t show the whole thing.

 

 

Multiple Shooters

There have been many reports of multiple shooters and around other casinos than Mandalay Bay hotel. People reported gunfire and broken glass and whatnot around those locations, but at least I am not sure whether anyone was shot in those places. Perhaps they were, or maybe those shootings were just more distractions.

I still think the video taken by a female taxi driver, that I discussed in my previous article on the shooting, is genuine and the gunfire in that video sounded real, so it would imply that someone was shot, but I don’t know who or where.

 

The Shooter

Stephen Paddock has been called a patsy by many, and for a good reason. In fact, I’m not sure if he was in Vegas that day. He probably was, but we shouldn’t take anything the media claims at face value.

I found these couple of images illustrating how incredible the official story is:

 

There are also rumours that Paddock was involved with the CIA or other agencies, but I don’t know reliable the claims are.

 

I should also mention that Paddock’s brother said that Stephen does not have any military training. Although I find his brother a suspicious character as well.

Another interesting detail I heard is in an interview with Steve Wynn, a casino owner from Vegas. He decribes how Stephen Paddock’s profile was very normal and not suspicious at all, since he had been to Las Vegas many times in the past, but then he says: “However, nobody in this company’s history, no public person has ever walked  in the service elevator unless they were accompanied by security.” Then the interviewer asks did Paddock go in the service elevator, and Wynn answers he’s not sure. So why would he even mention something like? Was it a slip of the tongue, and Wynn knew he walked into the service elevator at Mandalay Bay without escort? If that’s true, it certainly lends more credence to the fact it was a false flag. Or then again maybe the “slip” was deliberate, and giving a red herring for conspiracy theorists to chase after.

What’s clear though, that Wynn is pushing an agenda in the video which is naturally more surveillance and gun control.

 

The Agenda

Whether or not the shooting was a hoax, I am 99% sure it was a false flag. It has been used already to push for more metal detectors, body scanners and gun control. Whether people died or not, the whole event was clearly orchestrated to push for more surveillance of regular people, but of course not of actual criminals. If that is the agenda, it does not really matter for the perpetrators whether someone died or not. The people behind it know that there is a certain group of people who will always call the shooting a false flag or a hoax, whereas the masses will still eat up everything the media says.

 

Yet it is possible there was something else going on in Vegas that night as well. The shootings might have been a distraction from the real operation, whatever it was. Unfortunately, I have no clue what, if any, alternative agendas or operations were at play.

I also saw this newstory of a ” key witness” and his daughter “committing suicide” after the FBI raided his home.

 

Conclusion

I am not saying the Las Vegas shooting was a hoax. I’ve seen people do it, and I find it distasteful, since they don’t know what happened. It’s easy to say that it was orchestrated and that there are crisis actors talking about it, but they don’t know the big picture. It might be a hoax, but you cannot say for sure.

Yet I’ve seen people in the other camp, who do think the bodycount was more or less real, use shaming tactics and appeal to emotion, like ‘how dare you say no-one died’. I find it equally distasteful. This is why advocate for looking at the facts. Nothing that I’ve seen or read has convinced me that people died, but the perpetrators might have hidden the real bodycount under the cover of exaggerated numbers and lousy crisis actors.

If this operation was merely about pushing for more surveillance and gun control, I see it as more likely that it was a complete hoax, yet I do think there was something even more sinister in the background.

 

P.S.

I know that there is a camp in the Bohemian Grove called the Mandalay Camp based on Rudyard Kipling’s poem Mandalay, and he just happened to be a Freemason. There’s the Luxor pyramid in the background and all that, yet I don’t know if this symbolism ultimately means anything other than it’s just their calling card, and this occult Masonic symbolism is ubiquitous. It is obvious that this was some sort of false flag, but actual details are not that easy to uncover.

 

Huge meteor in China that resembles the Moon

Last night in China in Yunnan province apparently many people witnessed a bright meteor, or a so-called bolide. A bolide is “a large meteor which explodes in the atmosphere.” What’s interesting is that last night was the Chinese mid-autumn festival, a time when the Chinese gaze at the moon.

The picture below looks like the moon to me, but if it’s not, it’s quite intriguing. It fell down “over the northern parts of China’s Yunnan province, near the northern border of Myanmar”.

 

When I heard about this thing lighting up the sky and falling down, I thought of “And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.” (Luke 10:18) Although that thing doesn’t look like lightning.

I don’t know what it is, but if it’s not a hoax, I don’t think it’s just a meteor. Insert your theory here whether it’s Project Bluebeam, UFO, Nibiru, angel, demon, omen or whatever.

There is video of it, and it does seem to be moving, so I suppose it’s not the moon.

 

Links:

Breaking News- Yunnan, China Superbolide Meteorites Likely 04OCT2017 w/Video : http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.fi/2017/10/breaking-news-yunnan-china-superbolide.html

Video: http://s.weibo.com/weibo/%25E9%259B%25B2%25E5%258D%2597%25E6%25B5%2581%25E6%2598%259F&Refer=STopic_box

 

Curious details of the Las Vegas Harvest shooting

I’ve done some digging on the Las Vegas alleged shooting on internet forums and people have uncovered interesting details.

The shooting took place in the Route 91 Harvest Festival. A harvest of souls, you mean? Sounds rather occult. Please also note that they are “excited” to bring a TSA program to the festival. However, as always, their Orwellian security measures did not make things any more safe.

 

John’s Prediction

There was someone named John who posted this on September 10th on 4chan, I believe. He said there might be some sort of “high incident project” in Las Vegas or Henderson on 9/11, although there wasn’t on that date, something did happen on October 1st. He said “they are trying to create more regulations. you will see laws proposed within the next few years to put more metal detectors and other security devices.” Later on he added: “if their plan is successful state of nevada will pass a law in the future making all casinos have mandatory metal detectors and backscatter machines.” “They” would also put these machines in universities, federal buildings and so on.

John pointed out that OSI systems and Chertoff would be the main producers of the machines. He also said that around 2020 the two companies would merge into a single company.

 

Here is some info on OSI. The CEO is named Deepak Chopra, but apparently it isn’t the famous one.

 

OSI stocks seem to have been rising as of late. Possible due to their involvement in this “high incident project”.

 

OSI’s stocks rating went down on October 1st.

 

Yet less than 24 hours after that, and after the shooting presumably they went up again.

 

After the alleged shooting somebody tweeted that they need to install metal detectors “at every Las Vegas hotel”, which lends credence to the claims that John made in September.

 

The Chertoff that John referred to presumably means Chertoff Group formed by formed US Secretary of Homeland Security, Michael Chertoff. Wikipedia says: “He formed The Chertoff Group (TCG) on February 2, 2009 to work on crisis and risk management.”

Crisis and risk management? You mean crisis actor management?

There was apparently an ad for “Fun, Engaging Acting Work in Las Vegas” on Craigslist. Possibly referring to crisis acting.

 

The Alleged Shooter

Stephen Paddock, the alleged shooter, was working for the Israeli terrorist group, ISIS, according to said terrorist group, although the police confirmed he had no ties to such a group. I do belive that he was the patsy. I have seen people spin narratives that Paddock was radicalized Muslim Antifa babyboomer who went on a killing spree, but I have not seen any convincing evidence that anyone has actually died in the alleged shooting, so I have a hard time accepting this narrative. Nor do I find it credible that he alone, a 64 year old man, managed to kill 59 people, including himself, and wounded over 500 people, which seems incredible. I can understand that not everybody has to be hit by a bullet in a large crowd as the ensuing stampede is bound to cause damages as well, but so far I have not been convinced there were any bullets. Naturally, the shooter had “committed suicide” before the cops got to him.

According to the official narrative Paddock took shots from the 32nd floor. This floor might have been chosen for occult purposes. Yet in fact it is unlikely he or anyone actually took shots from that floor. There is video showing a muzzle flash coming from the 6th or 7th floor of the Mandalay Bay Hotel, but I have not seen any footage of gunfire from the 32nd.

 

Whether the muzzle flash is actually of a gun that is firing bullets, or is merely a simulated muzzle flash is another thing.

Somebody by the moniker AZ Flyguy posted the following picture on Google maps back in 2015. It depicts the location where Paddock allegedly took his shots toward the Route 91 festival. If the date of this picture is correct, it would suggest they were planning this incident already back in 2015.

 

Forum researchers have noted that Stephen Paddock purchased a house two days before this photo was taken. If this is relevant somehow, it might suggest he agreed to take part in the operation and paid for the house with the money he received from it.

 

There are also reports of multiple shooters, as is usual in dubious event such as this, contradicting the “lone wolf” story.

 

This compilation of videos from Las Vegas shows the millionaire poker player Dan Bilzerian on the scene around the 5:57 marker. He says somebody got shot “in the fucking head”. This comment to me suggests he was in on the hoax or whatever it was, since I am highly doubtful anyone was killed at the festival.

 

Around 11:07 in the same video a woman is being interviewed and she says there was a woman at the concert 45 minutes before the shooting started saying they’re “all going to die tonight”. Then the woman was escorted out by security. This also contradicts the official story of the Paddock acting alone. Clearly this woman knew something, whether she was trying to warn the people or she was in on the scam.

There’s an interview with Stephen Paddocks’s brother. He says that Marilou Danley is Paddock’s girlfriend. He’s “wondering” where Stephen got automatic weapons from, and says “he has no military background or anything like that”. Still, he seems to have been a pretty good shooter for a pensioner with no training…

 

EDIT: Shootings at other Casinos

Some people reported shots fired at other casinos as well such as the Aria and Caesar’s Palace. Both are a bit north of Mandalay Bay.

 

This person heard gunshots 15 minutes after the Mandalay Bay incident.

 

Then there’s this.

 

Assuming that these people are telling the truth, some shooting did occur in Vegas that night, but I think the Route 91/Mandalay Bay shooting was a distraction.

There is also this video from a woman who uploaded it to Facebook. She was at the Bellagio Hotel, and something happened there as well:

https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t42.1790-29/22225678_687983111398143_5599727993443319808_n.mp4?efg=eyJ2ZW5jb2RlX3RhZyI6InNkIn0%3D&oh=778330cf655abe6c57c2b5ddf2ce8902&oe=59D3E105

 

EDIT: Gunfire

I found a video taken by a female taxi driver. On the video you can hear machine gun fire, and it actually sounds like gunfire, unlike the “fireworks” most witnesses heard. Possibly two shooters can be heard as well. More interestingly the taxi driver says that people aren’t running although there’s gunfire. She notes the gunfire seems to emanate from the tenth floor of Mandalay Bay.

Later on the driver even picks up people fleeing the scene of the shooting, one of them allegedly injured. They’re saying there are hundreds or a thousand dead, and blood everywhere. What I think happened is that the taxi driver is a genuine person whereas her passengers are crisis actors. The passengers also want her to take them to a hotel, instead of a hospital or police station.

 

Conclusion

I am fairly certain now that this “terrorist attack” was an operation handled by some sort of governmental or corporate agency. Whether OSI Systems of Chertoff Group were actually involved remains to be seen. I do not think anyone died at the concert site where the shooter allegedly directed his fire, yet there might have been something else going on behind the scenes. Perhaps there was a hidden harvest going on elsewhere, be it the Mandalay Bay hotel or the Luxor pyramid.

This “high incident project” may have had two or more faucets and goals. On one level it’s about creating fear and pushing more Orwellian surveillance that never actually helps prevent violence despite being ubiquitous. On the other there might have been a murder or multiple murders and the unconvincing “fireworks” shooting drew attention away from that.

 

P.S.

When I saw this Tweet by Hillary Clinton yesterday, I knew the shooting was a joke. She is probably enjoying pushing this blatant gun grab propaganda before the alleged bodies are cold.

 

Links:

Michael Chertoff: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Chertoff

ISIS claims: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4595752/las-vegas-shooting-isis-claim-responsibility-gun-massacre/

AZ Flyguy: https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/143775276/

Paddock’s houses: http://heavy.com/news/2017/10/stephen-paddock-house-homes-mesquite-photos-pictures-northern-nevada/

 

The Las Vegas shooting

There has allegedly been a shooting in Las Vegas with 20 dead and 100 injured, although it looks like another hoax to me. It’s of course too early to say anything for sure.

A couple of eye witnesses, whose accounts do not sound that credible, say that the shots sounded like fireworks. One of them was who was Joe Pitzel was interviewed by CNN. At the end of the interview the reporter seems to be coaching him: “Did you hear the gunshots pause and start up again?” Joe responds: “Yeah, like they were loading clips.”

Eyewitness News interviewed a woman called Christine. She also thought the shots were fireworks. The reporter seems to be coaching her as well around 1:55 in the video about how she said off camera that she tried to help people.

Based on the photos that I’ve seen, there doesn’t seem be much blood or injuries. One photo has a woman lying down with a bloody leg, but you cannot see the injuries that she supposedly has.

Carrying an “injured” person, but where are the injuries?
The only blood I’ve seen so far.

 

Sure, the pictures show confusion at the site, but I am not yet convinced there was an actual shooting.

There were rumours on the internet that the shooter was a man called Stephen Craig Paddock, and he was just named as the official culprit as I finished writing this. He was supposedly accompanied by a woman called Marilou Danley.

The shooting happened during the concert of Jason Aldean whose name happens to be 33 in Pythagorean numerology. The alleged shooting also happened opposite to the Luxor hotel, which is a pyramid.

It’s too early to say anything for sure, but this event seems highly dubious.

 

EDIT:

This might just be a weird timestamp thing, but according to Google an article on Marilou Danley that mentions her connection to the shooter and it was created 9 hours ago on tagaloglang.com. The shooting happened around 10 p.m Pacific time on October 1st. It’s now 4 p.m., so the shooting should have happened 6 hours ago, so the webpage was created  3 hours before the event. I suppose the article might have been created beforehand on Danley, if she was a celebrity of some sort in the Philippines, and changed afterwards to mention her connection to the shooter.

https://www.tagaloglang.com/marilou-danley/

 

I checked Google cache of the article. This snapshot was taken 2 Oct 2017 08:42 GMT. This would be 1:42 a.m. Pacific time. I wonder if that is also when the article was created? If so, why does Google say it’s older? It might just be a weird glitch. The Wayback Machine didn’t have a snapshot of the article.

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:ilVhaCUtWeUJ:https://www.tagaloglang.com/marilou-danley/+&cd=24&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=fi&client=firefox-b

 

The page has been updated from the Google cache version to include a photo of her posing. Maybe this webpage is part of her crisis actor portfolio?

 

Links

CNN: http://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/02/us/las-vegas-shooting-live/index.html

Vegas shooting ‘sounded like fireworks’: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6gzJllE-Ps