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The Flat Earth Pacman Debate

Last night there was a flat earth debate between Lori Frary of the Flat Earth Conspiracy Youtube channel, Darren Nesbit (Daz Nex), Jeran Campanella (Jeranism) and David Weiss (DITRH). Lori and Darren were critical of the Azimuthal Equidistant (AE) round disc model, and they were promoting a 4D “Pacman”-model. I’ll discuss it later. Jeran and David were defending the Azimuthal Equidistant model. Overall I don’t think the debate itself went very well, since the AE model defenders were mostly muddying the waters instead of trying to understand their opposition’s point. All of the participants did get to reveal something about themselves at least.

 

The Crux of the Debate

I won’t go through the entire four and half hour debate, instead I’ll focus on one bit of it that sums up the whole debate pretty well. Towards the end of the debate Lori and Jeran are discussing simulation theory, different flat earth models and so on, then suddenly around 3 hours 48 minutes, Jeran says: “I think that you guys, and I’m just being completely honest, you either have something either against Mark Sargent, or for whatever reason you feel like…” Then Lori laughs and says she could care less about Mark Sargent. Jeran’s remark comes completely out of the blue, and is entirely irrelevant to the debate. Moreover, when you have to preface your argument with a “I’m just being completely honest”, it probably means you’re not. I doubt the name Mark Sargent had come up at all during the debate prior to this. I think by doing this Jeranism completely discredits himself, as it sounds like since he has no proper argument to defend his beloved AE model, he is trying to paint Lori and Darren as some sort of haters. As if they resent Sargent for introducing the AE map, but Lori points out that “Dubay brought Rowbotham and Rowbotham brought the map”. Jeran used similar derailing tactics elsewhere in the debate to distract attention away from arguments for the 4D-model or against the AE-model, but this was the most obvious example.

I cannot say what the underlying motivations of Jeran were for all of this, but somebody noted in the chat that Jeran has made a lot of money by pushing the AE map, which is why he is pushing it, and this makes him a shill. It might be that Jeran basically believes what he is saying, but he is blinded by his confirmation bias, and the fame and fortune he has made by praising the flat disc, so he is unwilling to entertain other possibilities. In the end of the debate, he even said that he will keep pushing the Azimuthal Equidistant map until he sees evidence that discredits it. He has seen plenty of evidence against it, but he is ignoring the evidence. I do believe that this makes Jeran pretty much irrelevant when it comes to flat earth research.

David Weiss on the other hand seems like he is the handler of Jeran. I haven’t seen many videos by any of the four people in the debate, and I am not well versed with any of them. The first time I heard about David Weiss is probably when Sofia Smallstorm had asked Jim Fetzer to debate flat earth with him. Weiss simply came off as crooked as a three dollar bill. That’s the impression I always get from him. I do think he is a smart guy, but extremely untrustworthy. When I saw a video, which I have discussed in previous posts, that Flat Earth Asshole mirrored from Antonio Subirats where David Weiss is saying the reason FEA went against the Azimuthal Equidistant map is because he is in “low-vibration” and influenced by demons is when I got my confirmation. My impression of David Weiss is that he is a perfect example of a gatekeeper. Some of the questionable antics of Jeranism might be explained with ignorance, but I don’t think that applies to David Weiss.

 

CIA Infiltrators

A famous maxim goes: “Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people.” I try to adhere to that, so the reason I am discussing these e-celebrities is to highlight how the flat earth movement has been infiltrated, or even hi-jacked by infiltrators. As time goes by, I’ve begun to respect Jake Gibson’s, i.e. Flat Earth Asshole’s, and ODD TV’s decision to call out Patricia Steere and Mark Sargent as shills even more. Both of their accusations are based on MGTV’s research, so the kudos should go to him. Often it is counterproductive to go out on shill hunts, since in the end it might end up biting you in the ass and distract from proper research, but since the attraction has been opened, we should ride it to its conclusion.

If I recall correctly, David Weiss said toward the end of the debate that no-one is a shill, that everyone is just trying to figure out the truth. Let’s think this through. Every single flat earther, including those in the debate, believe that the globe model of the earth is a lie. It’s a conspiracy that has lasted for centuries. They all believe in this vast global conspiracy, yet according to Weiss and some other flat earthers, there are no infiltrators in the flat earth research community. So basically when people began to find out the globe model is a lie, not simply false, but a deliberate lie, and the conspirators even faked the moon landings to further that lie, yet they simply let the flat earthers do their research with no interference? Does this sound credible?

Certain “flat earthers” are trying to make it seem like the reason there are conflicts within the flat earth research community is simply due to clashing of egos, nothing more sinister is going on. Flat Earth Reset showed a clip on his channel of a discussion between Mark Sargent, Patricia Steere, Robbie Davidson, IPS and some others I don’t know. One guy was saying: “Even if every single one of us had a history with the CIA, it wouldn’t make any difference. As Robbie so eloquently put, the truth is the truth no matter who says it. So who gives a damn if we’re all CIA shills?” Technically he is correct. The truth is the truth even if it’s coming from a bunch of CIA agents. However, do you really think that a bunch of CIA agents having a circle jerk are going to tell you the whole truth and nothing but the truth? Is it not reasonable to suspect that these agents might have ulterior motives? Do you think that the people who have invested a lot of effort over the course of centuries into the globe lie, would not try to derail investigation into the true nature of the earth with disinformation? Anyone who is saying it does not matter whether the CIA is infiltrating them is a CIA agent or very daft.

Moreover, I should point out that you cannot have an open and honest discussion with someone who is acting in bad faith. Whether it’s about the flat earth or more mundane issues. Debates with shills are unlikely to aid the pursuit of truth.

 

The Pacman Model

Enough of shill talk. I’m going to discuss the 4D Pacman-model that Darren Nesbit and Lori Frary are promoting. The basic idea is that the earth has four corners, be it a square or a diamond-shape. When you step off the map, let’s say in the east, you appear on the edge of the map in the west. Like in the game Pacman, if he steps off the screen on the right, he appears on the left. Another way to illustrate it would be to depict the earth as a continuous rectangle. The continents keep repeating how far you go east or west (I’m not sure what happens is you go off the map in the north or south though.  I should look into it more). According to this model, the earth is basically a cylinder without curvature. If you’ve played Sid Meier’s Civilization games, you should know what I’m talking about.

This is the model shown in the debate.

Certainly when I first heard about this model some time ago, I thought it sounds ridiculous, but the same could be said about the flat earth as well. According to Lori and Darren, this model is the one that best fits observations. I don’t know if they are correct or not, nor am I convinced this model is correct, but I do think it warrants serious consideration. After all, are there any other reasonable alternatives?

I do like the argument that Darren Nesbit made that science might be able to reveal the supernatural nature of God’s creation. Also either Lori or Darren said that maybe God barred off his creation with doors instead of walls. Ultimately though, I would like to see a model that does not require supernatural explanations, but if it is impossible to explain the shape of the earth and the movement of the sun with regular physics, maybe this is the natural next step.

 

Links:

Live! Flat Earth Map Debate: Frary, Weiss, Campanella, Nesbit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKBZ-9dEgxY&t=

Flat Earth Psychosis MIRROR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVjf6uhyDWI&t=328s

Flat Earth Reset: Flat Earth Gate Keeping Pt1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHHdSg8Smbk&t=933s

WHY the official FLAT EARTH model is WRONG, and WHY it matters…: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAdH-u_NJlk

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Division is a natural thing to any movement

There is nothing wrong wanting to separate yourself from dishonest, disingenuine or otherwise harmful people. This is an idea I understood a while ago, but it’s particularly relevant to today. Last night I was reading the comment sections on ODD TV 2 and Flat Earth Asshole’s Youtube channels. I’m of course referring to the recently appeared divide among flat earthers that I’ve written about in my last two previous posts.

Initially it might seem like the “good guys” would always want unite people, they would never want to exclude anyone from them. They will always try to find common ground and so forth, whereas the “bad guys” want to separate themselves from others. Our contemporary culture certainly promotes this ideology, where everything is about unity. Ultimately though it is a globalist and even a Satanic idea.

Speaking of Satan. Say you have a group of good angels and bad angels. Initially they are divided and at odds with each other, and you might think the way to rectify the situation is for the good angels to offer an olive branch to the bad ones. If the bad ones find it in their hearts to accept it, everything will be fine again. However this is a deluded liberal idea. It is the good angels who have more to lose if they were to intermingle with the bad ones. They stand to be corrupted. Sure, there is a possibility some of the bad angels might see the error of their ways and repent, but more likely is that the bad ones will convert some of the good ones to their depraved ways. It is easier to destroy than to heal, or it is easier to succumb to depravity than to escape it.

Let’s have a more earthly example of this. You have a group of healthy people and group of people with HIV or the plague. It would only make sense to separate the healthy from the sick to protect them. Sure, some of the healthy people might want to help the sick if they are able to protect themselves, yet they should not do it at the expense of the healthy. The difference between this and the angel example is that the people, possibly, did not become sick due to their own actions or iniquity.

Let’s say you know a person who is a drug addict and a compulsive liar. He lends money from people and doesn’t pay it back. It’s natural that at first you want to try to help them mend their ways and show compassion to them. Yet if they refuse to change, at some point you simply have to make the decision not to associate with them anymore to protect yourself. It is a harmful delusion to think you can fix everything and all of the world’s problems. Sometimes the best you can do is simply walk away.

Speaking of the flat earth “movement”. As I was reading the comments on ODD TV’s and Flat Earth Asshole’s channels I found most of them supportive of their decision to call out falsehoods and shills among flat earthers, but some people accused them of being “divisive”. Sure, they are divisive and that’s a good thing. You do not want to associate with dishonest or severely deluded people. FEA mirrored a video on his channel where David Weiss rambled about ODD and FEA being stuck in “low vibration” and pointless New Age BS like that. His argument was basically that the reason Flat Earth Asshole and ODD called out the shills, or FEA attacked the AE model of flat earth, is that they are possessed by demons. I don’t know whether Weiss actually believes in what he is saying or is simply trying to manipulate people to do as he says, but he is certainly acting like a cult leader, which is exactly what the Flat Earth Asshole claimed the flat earth movement has become. The main stream of flat earth is a cult, dominated by dishonest or deluded cult leaders. Genuine people are better off leaving them to their circle jerk and focus on the actual scientific facts for and against flat earth and on people who provide proper arguments, not on people who are trying to “unite” everyone.

I hope the flat earth movement dies, and when I mean the movement, I mean this controlled echo chamber of e-celebrities. Genuine flat earth research will be better off without the egos and the mind control. I hope the flat earth conference burns, figuratively. Some comments I read said that Mark Sargent and Patricia Steere brought so many people to the flat earth, so how can they be shills? Does it make any difference if people are mindlessly repeating “the earth is a sphere” or “the earth is flat”, if they don’t understand the contents of what they are saying? Haven’t these people understood the phrase “quality over quantity”? I’d rather have a few fringe websites and Youtubers discussing the flat earth from a critical perspective than a huge bunch of Yes Men and Women using the flat earth as their latest source of entertainment.

Even the Bible has several passages describing division as a good thing:

Matthew 13:49 So will it be at the end of the age: The angels will come and separate the wicked from the righteous

Matthew 25:32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats

Matthew 10:34-36 Do not assume that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn ‘A man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. A man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.

Regardless of what you think of the Bible or Jesus (I myself I am still unsure what to make of it), you should be able recognize the wisdom in these words. Those who seek truth will become divided from those who prefer lies and comfort.

Most of the prominent people in the flat earth movement are in it either for attention or simply to mislead people. You have to have discernment to see this.

 

Links:

Flat Earth Potato Clues | Mark Sargent & Patricia Steere | Shills: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGWK1pmti54&t=2s

Flat Earth Psychosis MIRROR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVjf6uhyDWI

Flat Earth Drama and Shilling

There has been some “drama” among flat earthers as of late, and everyone likes to say they don’t like drama, but I do. Seeing people fight on the internet can be quite entertaining, yet the thing about internet drama is that it is mostly entertainment and does not provide much relevant information, so I usually try to stay away from it.

 

The Drama

For me this started with Flat Earth Asshole’s video, that I discussed in my previous post, how he pointed out the how the azimuthal equidistant map and the circular movement model of the sun do not work. This is not the drama, as FEA made several cogent arguments. The drama is that apparently two prominent flat earthers, Mark Sargent and Patricia Steere, have been exposed as shills or something by Youtuber MGTV, whose channel was shortly taken down. I call this bit drama, since who didn’t figure out those two were shills two years ago?

It appears Sargent and Steere are working for a corporation, Metatron Inc, and they apparently have some sort of cellphone app made by Metatron Inc, that is probably spying on you. The kicker is that MGTV found out that the apps of both people were made back in 2010, long before either of them became interested in the flat earth. I’m not sure how the manufacture of these apps work, but I presume you can change the name of the app afterwards, so they probably did not refer to the flat earth back in 2010.

I theorize that both Sargent and Steere were some sort of intelligence assets back in 2010, and they were set to infiltrate the “truth movement”. Back then they or their handlers just weren’t sure what sort of angle they should be pushing. In 2014, the flat earth sprung up and they saw their chance.

 

Ultimately though, it doesn’t matter what the backstory of these two people is, therefore I call it drama, since it should have been obvious long ago that these people are sketchy, especially Patricia Steere. I think I watched her interview with Rob Skiba back in the day, and saw little reason watch any of her other stuff. Speaking of her, there are even some people saying that she is a tranny, that she is not a 50-something woman, but a 20-something man. I’m not sure if I believe that or not, but it doesn’t seem too far-fetched either.

Yet, it’s not only Mark and Pat that are suspicious in the flat earth community, which should not be a surprise. I take it as granted that whenever there any kind of new movement or subculture, most people are initially against it, but as it refuses to die and gains popularity all sorts of parasitic people will appear. Some people don’t really care about the movement or subculture itself, but they care about the attention, or they find someway to make money off of it. When you add conspiracy theories to the mix, you’ll bound to get some sort of alphabet soup infiltrators or shills. I find most of the prominent Youtubers on flat earth to be suspicious.

 

Founding Fathers of Flat Earth

In the beginning, there were three major flat earthers on Youtube: Eric Dubay, Math Powerland, and Mark Sargent. Very early on I saw an Eric Dubay video where he showed Math Powerland ranting against anti-Semitism, so I could never take him seriously. Eric Dubay on the other hand, did make several good flat earth videos back in 2014-2015, but nowadays he’s mostly irrelevant, and I’m pretty sure he’s crooked too. So all of these “founding fathers” of modern flat earth research are untrustworthy. And to top it off, Eric Dubay has been exposing many of the as shills from the beginning, although Math Powerland on the other hand claimed Dubay is a shill. What was their game?

If all three were ultimately being controlled by the same source, I suppose the game was that conspiracy researchers probably would not fall for the act of all three of them, so different kind of characters would have to be put in place. Eric Dubay had this intellectual and reserved way of doing his thing. Math Powerland was like a rebellious rock star or something. And Mark Sargent, I suppose (I haven’t watched much of his stuff, to be honest), was laid back and non-confrontational. Back in the day, I prefered Dubay’s style, and also I at least knew who he was before he got into flat earth research. I didn’t know much about him, except he was some sort of conspiracy researcher, and I recall seeing him on the David Icke forum when I used to hang around there too. Sargent on the other hand just popped out of nowhere as some sort of expert. And Math Powerland seemed too Zionist for me.

Or maybe those three are actually controlled by different agencies, and are in some sort of competition with each other. For example, Dubay is CIA, Powerland is Zionist/Hollywood and Sargent and Steere are Masons. Ultimately, though, it does not matter, as long as you recognize that these people are untrustworthy.

 

Flat Earth Roll-out

Flat Earth Asshole, one of the honest flat earthers in my opinion, pointed out that flat earth has been rolled out on purpose by The Powers That Be. He’s probably right. Why else would Obama say in public “We don’t have time for the meeting of the flat earth society”? Why would celebrities like B.O.B. and Shaquille O’Neill be talking about it? There was even Dr. David Agus who mentioned that the earth is flat a couple of times on CBS interviews, although he is supposed to be talking about the Zika virus. They way he just blurts out “the earth is flat” sounds like mind control. Also once he says: “The world is flat. There needs to be global governance.” It’s just weird. I suppose he’s trying to make the listener to associate flat earth with the need for global governance. I don’t think that guy is just an honest man trying to tell the truth.

 

So if the masters of our universe are pushing flat earth, does it mean it’s all a hoax then? Is the earth a spinning globe? I don’t think so. One possible reason is that the projections of the intelligence agencies told them back in 2014 that people are beginning to figure out that we have been lied about the shape and nature of the earth. Suppressing discussion about it would be albeit impossible, so the best they can do is either hi-jack the discussion or poison the well.

I should point out that discussion of the flat earth existed on the internet before Eric Dubay came out with his research in Autumn 2014. I do think Dubay popularized the topic, but he certainly wasn’t the first one to talk about it. In fact I wrote about the flat earth already in February 2014, over six months before Dubay’s Youtube videos. I am not claiming I had anything to do with making flat earth the popular topic it is today, but only to point out people were already discussing it. My article “The Earth is Flat!” starts off with:

“Last night I saw a Truther Girls video on Youtube featuring Arron the Barbarian, husband of truther girl Sonya. The video was called ‘Why Do People Think The Earth Is Flat?’.”

Apparently Arron and Sonya also had walked in on a priorly existing discussion on the flat earth. The debate was already going on before Dubay started talking about it. Based on what I’ve heard Math Powerland talked about the flat earth on Youtube back in 2012, and he might have been the first person on Youtube to talk about it, but it does not mean he was the first one on the internet to do so. I don’t know who was, but supposedly there were people back in the nineties already talking about it, and not just the controlled opposition Flat Earth Society.

So I don’t think the flat earth notion, which is basically that there does not seem to be curvature, and that NASA and other official agencies have lied about the shape of the earth, is a psy-op or a controlled roll-out. I do think the origin of the discussion is genuine, and there are plenty of genuine people out there talking about it, but I do think The Powers That Be have inserted many half-truths and infiltrators into the mix. Although the phrase “flat earth” might ultimately end up being a misnomer or a psy-op, since maybe the earth is not flat. I don’t think it’s a spinning ball, but maybe there is another model that is more accurate. I understand that it sounds better to say “the earth is flat” than “there appears to be a distinct lack of curvature when it comes to the earth”, yet we should question even this sort of assumptions and popularized expressions.

 

The Conference

Speaking of infiltrators, I learned from Flat Earth Asshole’s video that there is going to be flat earth conference in North Carolina November 9-10. I didn’t even know about it, since I tend not to pay too much attention to these e-celebrities. Among the speakers are Patricia Steere and Mark Sargent. Youtuber ODD TV was planning on attending the conference until he learned about Steere and Sargent’s apparent shillery. Now he won’t. Kudos to him, I like ODD and I’d like to think he is genuine, and at least his behaviour does seem to affirm that he is. The other people who are going to the conference though, are even more suspect now. I don’t really know who many of them are, for some of them I have a vague idea, but the one that saddens me a bit is Rob Skiba. I started following his work before he was even into flat earth, and he seems like a decent guy. His style is very non-confrontational, so I don’t expect him to call out Sargent or Steere the same way that FEA or ODD did, yet it does undermine his credibility to a certain extent if he goes along with the whole thing.

Overall, especially if any kind of flat earther or conspiracy researcher is famous, it’s probably safe to assume they are crooked, until proven otherwise.

 

Links:

I am not saying that Patricia Steere is a mid 50’s tranny JERANISM, IPS, ODD, DITRH, ERIC DUBAY: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_1-SazpHPM

The End of the FAKE Flat Earth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvryGzjPpz8

Flat Earth – Dividing The TRUTH From The LIES: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8HsXDEokGk

Flat Earth Potato Clues | Mark Sargent & Patricia Steere | Shills: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGWK1pmti54

The Earth is Flat!: https://concordiaabchao.wordpress.com/2014/02/07/the-earth-is-flat/

Flat Earth conference attendees: http://fe2017.com/featuring/

 

 

The Invisible Curve

I saw a Youtube video yesterday by Marty Leeds addressing another video from Cody Labs channel. The Cody Labs video supposedly demonstrated the curve of the earth by showing a tall chimney in the distance filmed a long distance away from a flat-looking sandy beach. The bottom of the chimney was not visible, which according to Cody means it’s hidden behind the curvature. Whereas Marty Leeds, referring to claims by other flat earthers, ODD TV and Rob Skiba, suggest the bottom part of the chimney is obscured due to atmospheric lensing.

 

Flats and Slopes

What ever the effect that obscures the bottom part of buildings at a distance is called is one thing, but I’m doubtful they’ve hidden behind any curve of the earth. I’ve seen plenty of videos people claiming something is obscured by earth’s curve, and I’ve noticed one thing that seems in common with them: they usually show a flat plane that suddenly just drops down. The land looks flat, there is no curve visible with the eye. No-one ever sees it with they naked eye, yet it’s supposedly there.

To illustrate what I mean, I made this illustration (the small stick-figure observer is on the left, and the chimney on the right):

On the left side image is how all of these curvature demonstration videos that I’ve seen tend to be, and on the right is how it allegedly is. This is assuming that the chimney, or another building, is obscured by the curve. This applies whether we are talking about a video taken over land or water. The land always looks flat, not necessarily perfectly flat, but certainly not round, but magically when you go far enough the earth supposedly curves. We never see the visibly round earth of the illustration on the right. There are round hills on the earth. I’ve seen them. You can see they are round, but the earth’s curvature is like an elusive fairy, always lurking just beyond your eyesight, yet it’s there. They assure us it’s there, at least.

Another thing I just thought of is, if the earth is curved, and buildings far away from us curve away, then shouldn’t the top of the building always be further away from us than the bottom? Like in the illustration above, the top of the chimney is leaning away from us. I suppose someone could test this somehow, are buildings far away from us leaning away?

I am sure a spherical earther would answer the conundrum of the invisible curve to say that the earth is so big that we don’t see the curve. I would ask them then, how do they know it’s curved then? The earth’s curve never looks curved. It’s always flat until there is a sudden slope down at a distance. Based on these claims and observations the earth would be shaped more like this:

 

Except that we don’t really see the angle or the slope. It looks flat, but it’s not. Let’s say that Cody was standing on number 8, and taking pictures of the chimney which is at number 10. If he was to walk from 8 to 10, would he experience a sudden slope down at some point? I don’t think so.

Even if land was somehow curved despite not being visible to the naked eye, water certainly is not. Water does not curve, which means are not living on a ball that has a surface of 70% water.

 

Ad Hominems

Marty Leeds also requested that someone answer the question, how far up do you have to go to see the curvature. And that people did so without trying to dodge the question by addressing another question, or by berating the flat earther with ad hominem insults. This is a nice approach, even if it is increasingly rare. Cody Labs was a rare exception in that he seemed polite and professional even if I disagree with his conclusions.

To illustrate a more common approach to tackling flat earth research we can go this video titled “The Earth is a Sphere and Flat-Earthers are Worshipping the Anunnaki! with Peter Kling” from Russell Scott’s channel. I’ve never heard about Peter Kling or Russell Scott before, but the title basically says it all. According to the video since the Anunnaki of myth ruled over a flat domed earth, flat earthers that believe the earth is shaped like that are worshipping the Anunnaki. Of course the God of the Bible, or the gods of many other cultures ruled over a similar earth as well, but let’s not put facts in the way of a convenient guilt trip narrative. Another claim I’ve heard is that flat earth is like a gnostic secret. When you’ve “indoctrinated” into the flat earth narrative then you’re indoctrinated into a gnostic secret that makes you feel better than others. No, that’s not it at all. Flat earth is the common sense observation, the spinning heliocentric earth is the “gnostic” narrative you learn from high priests of science but have no way of verifying for yourself.

I’d just like someone to actually demonstrate curvature. Show it. Don’t show curious facts, such as ships disappearing behind the horizon and claim it’s due to the curvature. If the earth is a curved ball, they should have no problem demonstrating it with modern technology. Alas, no such thing has ever been made.

I suppose I have to point out that the pictures from NASA are not photographs, they are photoshopped. This is admitted by NASA. Moreover, we all know the earth is pear shaped anyway. Curves work different on a pear than on a ball, apparently.

 

Links:

Measuring Earth’s Radius With A Telescope?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcdBFfoi3uU

We Need to Talk About Flat Earth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xJKmKj3Vtk

The Earth is a Sphere and Flat-Earthers are Worshipping the Anunnaki! with Peter Kling: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snHKEnuB64w&t=