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The Invisible Curve

I saw a Youtube video yesterday by Marty Leeds addressing another video from Cody Labs channel. The Cody Labs video supposedly demonstrated the curve of the earth by showing a tall chimney in the distance filmed a long distance away from a flat-looking sandy beach. The bottom of the chimney was not visible, which according to Cody means it’s hidden behind the curvature. Whereas Marty Leeds, referring to claims by other flat earthers, ODD TV and Rob Skiba, suggest the bottom part of the chimney is obscured due to atmospheric lensing.


Flats and Slopes

What ever the effect that obscures the bottom part of buildings at a distance is called is one thing, but I’m doubtful they’ve hidden behind any curve of the earth. I’ve seen plenty of videos people claiming something is obscured by earth’s curve, and I’ve noticed one thing that seems in common with them: they usually show a flat plane that suddenly just drops down. The land looks flat, there is no curve visible with the eye. No-one ever sees it with they naked eye, yet it’s supposedly there.

To illustrate what I mean, I made this illustration (the small stick-figure observer is on the left, and the chimney on the right):

On the left side image is how all of these curvature demonstration videos that I’ve seen tend to be, and on the right is how it allegedly is. This is assuming that the chimney, or another building, is obscured by the curve. This applies whether we are talking about a video taken over land or water. The land always looks flat, not necessarily perfectly flat, but certainly not round, but magically when you go far enough the earth supposedly curves. We never see the visibly round earth of the illustration on the right. There are round hills on the earth. I’ve seen them. You can see they are round, but the earth’s curvature is like an elusive fairy, always lurking just beyond your eyesight, yet it’s there. They assure us it’s there, at least.

Another thing I just thought of is, if the earth is curved, and buildings far away from us curve away, then shouldn’t the top of the building always be further away from us than the bottom? Like in the illustration above, the top of the chimney is leaning away from us. I suppose someone could test this somehow, are buildings far away from us leaning away?

I am sure a spherical earther would answer the conundrum of the invisible curve to say that the earth is so big that we don’t see the curve. I would ask them then, how do they know it’s curved then? The earth’s curve never looks curved. It’s always flat until there is a sudden slope down at a distance. Based on these claims and observations the earth would be shaped more like this:


Except that we don’t really see the angle or the slope. It looks flat, but it’s not. Let’s say that Cody was standing on number 8, and taking pictures of the chimney which is at number 10. If he was to walk from 8 to 10, would he experience a sudden slope down at some point? I don’t think so.

Even if land was somehow curved despite not being visible to the naked eye, water certainly is not. Water does not curve, which means are not living on a ball that has a surface of 70% water.


Ad Hominems

Marty Leeds also requested that someone answer the question, how far up do you have to go to see the curvature. And that people did so without trying to dodge the question by addressing another question, or by berating the flat earther with ad hominem insults. This is a nice approach, even if it is increasingly rare. Cody Labs was a rare exception in that he seemed polite and professional even if I disagree with his conclusions.

To illustrate a more common approach to tackling flat earth research we can go this video titled “The Earth is a Sphere and Flat-Earthers are Worshipping the Anunnaki! with Peter Kling” from Russell Scott’s channel. I’ve never heard about Peter Kling or Russell Scott before, but the title basically says it all. According to the video since the Anunnaki of myth ruled over a flat domed earth, flat earthers that believe the earth is shaped like that are worshipping the Anunnaki. Of course the God of the Bible, or the gods of many other cultures ruled over a similar earth as well, but let’s not put facts in the way of a convenient guilt trip narrative. Another claim I’ve heard is that flat earth is like a gnostic secret. When you’ve “indoctrinated” into the flat earth narrative then you’re indoctrinated into a gnostic secret that makes you feel better than others. No, that’s not it at all. Flat earth is the common sense observation, the spinning heliocentric earth is the “gnostic” narrative you learn from high priests of science but have no way of verifying for yourself.

I’d just like someone to actually demonstrate curvature. Show it. Don’t show curious facts, such as ships disappearing behind the horizon and claim it’s due to the curvature. If the earth is a curved ball, they should have no problem demonstrating it with modern technology. Alas, no such thing has ever been made.

I suppose I have to point out that the pictures from NASA are not photographs, they are photoshopped. This is admitted by NASA. Moreover, we all know the earth is pear shaped anyway. Curves work different on a pear than on a ball, apparently.



Measuring Earth’s Radius With A Telescope?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcdBFfoi3uU

We Need to Talk About Flat Earth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xJKmKj3Vtk

The Earth is a Sphere and Flat-Earthers are Worshipping the Anunnaki! with Peter Kling: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snHKEnuB64w&t=

Do even The Powers That Be know the shape of the earth?

The Flat Earth debate has gained traction in recent months, and I’ve been fascinated by the topic as well. The flat earthers have managed to convince me that the round earth model is questionable, but I haven’t jumped onto the flat earth bandwagon either. I am not a flat earther, nor a round earther. I simply do not know what the shape of the earth is, and I’m not whether anyone does.

The very simple reason why I have began to question the spherical earth model we have assumed to be correct since that’s what we’ve been told is that there no, or at least very few, photographs of the earth, and the scientists do not seem unanimous on the shape of the earth either. The flat earth researcher Eric Dubay has pointed out that we are usually told the earth is round, however nowadays scientists claim the earth is an oblate spheroid, yet Neil DeGrasse Tyson, a supposed expert,  said it’s pear-shaped.


Is the earth round?

Oblate sphreroid

An oblate spheroid?


Or pear-shaped?

Eric Dubay’s suggestion is that the earth is flat. Might be, but I suggest that perhaps no-one knows what the shape is.

Most, if not all, of the photos we’ve seen of the earth are computer composites, not unaltered photographs. And I’ve never seen anything that resembles an actual photo of the earth where the earth looks like an oblate spheroid or a pear. So where do these “experts” get the notion that the earth is not perfectly round, yet it is sort of round? If people have sent dozens of shuttles into space, why aren’t there dozens or hundreds of photographs of the earth? There are supposedly over 2000 satellites orbiting the earth, and several probes have been sent out into space. You’d think some of them would take pictures of the earth for all to see.

I think the only logical conclusion that can be drawn from these discrepancies is that either they, i.e. people in charge of space agencies, refuse to show us actual photographs of the earth, or they cannot even take those photos. If the first possibility is correct, then there must be something about the earth they don’t want us to know. The earth might be flat, or there might an alien mothership or Nibiru in orbit around the earth, or perhaps photos of the earth would reveal the existence of a secret continent on our planet that we not know about. These are just hypothetical scenarios, though.

Another possibility is that humanity has been unable to go into space, as is therefore unable to take any picture depicting the earth in its entirety. A solid barrier might encase the earth, such as the biblical Firmament, or perhaps there an energetic barrier such as the Van Allen belt that prevents passage. I remember hearing years ago Michael Tsarion say that the earth is surrounded by a Stargate that prevents anything from leaving. It sounded far-fetched back then, but an intriguing possibility that I am not considering seriously. Alternatively, alien overlords, the true rulers of our planet may tell us that if someone sends a probe out into space they will nuke the whole planet.

The bottom line is, I don’t know what the shape of the earth is, or what’s out there in space, and I’m beginning to think no-one really knows, but for some reason there is a vast conspiracy to feed us these accounts of moon landings and other NASA lies. For all I know the earth is round, flat, a cube or a Möbius Strip, but I don’t want to jump on any bandwagon simply for the sake of belonging. I just want the facts.

I do think that many of the flat earthers are either co-intelpro agents, or simply people who jump on the bandwagon to be cool and contrarian, but not all of them are like that. Some of them seem genuine and intelligent. Many of the round earthers have a really strong emotional reaction when someone speaks the heresy that earth might be flat. They react with emotion, and herd-mentality, and resort to name calling and foul language instead of looking at the facts. The fact is, you don’t know how the earth is shaped unless you’ve been up there in space.



Neil DeGrasse Tyson Says Earth is Pear Shaped: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E9G8fbnZ24

How many man-made satellites are currently orbiting the Earth?: http://www.windows2universe.org/kids_space/sat.html

NASA: Earth from Space: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50gC2rY-30w