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The Invisible Curve

I saw a Youtube video yesterday by Marty Leeds addressing another video from Cody Labs channel. The Cody Labs video supposedly demonstrated the curve of the earth by showing a tall chimney in the distance filmed a long distance away from a flat-looking sandy beach. The bottom of the chimney was not visible, which according to Cody means it’s hidden behind the curvature. Whereas Marty Leeds, referring to claims by other flat earthers, ODD TV and Rob Skiba, suggest the bottom part of the chimney is obscured due to atmospheric lensing.


Flats and Slopes

What ever the effect that obscures the bottom part of buildings at a distance is called is one thing, but I’m doubtful they’ve hidden behind any curve of the earth. I’ve seen plenty of videos people claiming something is obscured by earth’s curve, and I’ve noticed one thing that seems in common with them: they usually show a flat plane that suddenly just drops down. The land looks flat, there is no curve visible with the eye. No-one ever sees it with they naked eye, yet it’s supposedly there.

To illustrate what I mean, I made this illustration (the small stick-figure observer is on the left, and the chimney on the right):

On the left side image is how all of these curvature demonstration videos that I’ve seen tend to be, and on the right is how it allegedly is. This is assuming that the chimney, or another building, is obscured by the curve. This applies whether we are talking about a video taken over land or water. The land always looks flat, not necessarily perfectly flat, but certainly not round, but magically when you go far enough the earth supposedly curves. We never see the visibly round earth of the illustration on the right. There are round hills on the earth. I’ve seen them. You can see they are round, but the earth’s curvature is like an elusive fairy, always lurking just beyond your eyesight, yet it’s there. They assure us it’s there, at least.

Another thing I just thought of is, if the earth is curved, and buildings far away from us curve away, then shouldn’t the top of the building always be further away from us than the bottom? Like in the illustration above, the top of the chimney is leaning away from us. I suppose someone could test this somehow, are buildings far away from us leaning away?

I am sure a spherical earther would answer the conundrum of the invisible curve to say that the earth is so big that we don’t see the curve. I would ask them then, how do they know it’s curved then? The earth’s curve never looks curved. It’s always flat until there is a sudden slope down at a distance. Based on these claims and observations the earth would be shaped more like this:


Except that we don’t really see the angle or the slope. It looks flat, but it’s not. Let’s say that Cody was standing on number 8, and taking pictures of the chimney which is at number 10. If he was to walk from 8 to 10, would he experience a sudden slope down at some point? I don’t think so.

Even if land was somehow curved despite not being visible to the naked eye, water certainly is not. Water does not curve, which means are not living on a ball that has a surface of 70% water.


Ad Hominems

Marty Leeds also requested that someone answer the question, how far up do you have to go to see the curvature. And that people did so without trying to dodge the question by addressing another question, or by berating the flat earther with ad hominem insults. This is a nice approach, even if it is increasingly rare. Cody Labs was a rare exception in that he seemed polite and professional even if I disagree with his conclusions.

To illustrate a more common approach to tackling flat earth research we can go this video titled “The Earth is a Sphere and Flat-Earthers are Worshipping the Anunnaki! with Peter Kling” from Russell Scott’s channel. I’ve never heard about Peter Kling or Russell Scott before, but the title basically says it all. According to the video since the Anunnaki of myth ruled over a flat domed earth, flat earthers that believe the earth is shaped like that are worshipping the Anunnaki. Of course the God of the Bible, or the gods of many other cultures ruled over a similar earth as well, but let’s not put facts in the way of a convenient guilt trip narrative. Another claim I’ve heard is that flat earth is like a gnostic secret. When you’ve “indoctrinated” into the flat earth narrative then you’re indoctrinated into a gnostic secret that makes you feel better than others. No, that’s not it at all. Flat earth is the common sense observation, the spinning heliocentric earth is the “gnostic” narrative you learn from high priests of science but have no way of verifying for yourself.

I’d just like someone to actually demonstrate curvature. Show it. Don’t show curious facts, such as ships disappearing behind the horizon and claim it’s due to the curvature. If the earth is a curved ball, they should have no problem demonstrating it with modern technology. Alas, no such thing has ever been made.

I suppose I have to point out that the pictures from NASA are not photographs, they are photoshopped. This is admitted by NASA. Moreover, we all know the earth is pear shaped anyway. Curves work different on a pear than on a ball, apparently.



Measuring Earth’s Radius With A Telescope?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcdBFfoi3uU

We Need to Talk About Flat Earth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xJKmKj3Vtk

The Earth is a Sphere and Flat-Earthers are Worshipping the Anunnaki! with Peter Kling: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snHKEnuB64w&t=

The Firmament

The Bible describes a firmament separating earth from the heavens. The firmament seems to be some sort of solid barrier or dome that is around or above the earth. This differs significantly from the modern scientific view according to which the earth is surrounded by the atmosphere with different gases, but nothing solid.

The notion of the firmament has risen in relevance mainly due to the Flat Earth debate that has emerged fairly recently. Although if the firmament actually exists, it does not necessarily imply the earth is flat. A round, bubble-like firmament could encase the earth as well a dome might encase of flat earth. Therefore I won’t be discussing the shape of the earth in this post.

I think I should point out I am not a flat earther, nor a round earther. I am a truth seeker, and I do find the current flat earth debate relevant as there are many questions as to the nature of our world. If you think it is dumb merely to entertain the possibility that the earth might be flat, please forever hold your speech.


The Firmament and the Stars

Let’s see what the Bible says about the firmament.

Genesis 1:
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
One interesting point is that according to the Bible there is supposed to be water above the firmament, i.e. in outer space. Is that why in science fiction shows like Star Trek and Star Wars they fly around in space ships and starships, and have a starfleet? Speaking of stars, what is the relation of the firmament to them?
Genesis 1:
14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
The Bible says that the stars and the “two great lights”, presumably the sun and the moon, are in the firmament. The firmament is often depicted something like this (along with the flat earth):
There is one detail I do not agree with. The image shows the sun, the moon and the stars beneath the firmament, not inside it. This is my interpretation of the firmament with the sun, moon and the stars within it (and you can clearly recognize my superior artistic ability):


According to my understanding of the biblical description, what we call space (with the sun, moon and stars) is the firmament. The firmament is not behind them. Behind the firmament should be water. When we look up at the night sky and see stars and constellations we are seeing inside the firmament.


What is the Firmament made of?

The book of Job, which is supposedly the oldest book in the Bible describes the firmament as follows:

Job 37:18 Hast thou with him spread out the sky, which is strong, and as a molten looking glass?
Other translations of the Bible describe the firmament as ” a mirror of cast bronze” or a “cast metal mirror”. The Hebrew word used here is “raqiya” or “raqia”,  which is an “extended surface, (solid) expanse (as if beaten out”, according to Biblehub. Robert J. Schadewald describes the meaning of “raqia” as follows: “In ancient times, brass objects were either cast in the form required or beaten into shape on an anvil. A good craftsman could beat a lump of cast brass into a thin bowl.” Most of this biblical information is, by the way, from Rob Skiba’s brilliant flat earth research site Testing the Globe.com.
So the firmament that allegedly covers the heavens is a glass-like or metallic expanse. It is reflective like a mirror, or possibly transparent even. Do we have any evidence of such a thing? As far as I know, no-one has flown up there and said they’ve seen the firmament up there, but there is evidence of on the ground of mysterious glass-like debris.
Tektites “are gravel-size bodies composed of black, green, brown or gray natural glass formed from terrestrial debris ejected during extraterrestrial, meteorite impacts.” It is, according to modern science, glass from the skies.
There is also mysterious glass in the Libyan desert. I’ve heard theories it’s there, because of a nuclear detonation in the ancient world. It’s possible, or it could be from the firmament. I’m by far not the first person to make the suggestion that tektites or the Libyan glass are from the firmament, but I do find it compelling evidence. To be sure, however, we’d have to send a trustworthy explorer or probe up in the stratosphere to be sure whether there actually is glass in the sky or not. NASA or the space agencies are not a trustworthy source.
Although I’m not a Christian and not obliged to believe the Bible, I’ve began to notice in recent times that the Bible seems to be more accurate in describing reality than most of the so-called science in modern times. I do think it is possible that the firmament does exist. If it does not it could explain why NASA has faked their moon landings, and why it’s impossible, or at least even harder than thought before, to go into outer space.

Raqia: http://biblehub.com/hebrew/7549.htm

Tektites: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tektite

Libyan desert glass: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libyan_desert_glass

Glass sky, Libyan Desert Glass, indeed this could be an answer !! : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P_oNZPw79o

Ancient Israelite, Aryan and Jewish Connection

I am continuing with the Khazar-Jewish conjecture and expanding it to everyone’s favourite race; the Aryans. Yet first of all, let’s ask who were the Israelites of Old Testament. I do not believe they have anything to do with the Jews who are occupying Palestine today. This is regardless of whether the Ashkenazi are Khazars or not.

In my previous post I posed the question:  “Isn’t the Old Testament full of the Jewish supremacist violence?” After chewing on the idea a few days I’m gonna say maybe not. The Old Testament has plenty of scenes were the Israelites butcher other races on the orders of their god. Yet there might be extenuating circumstances to this, to put it callously.

Jim Denison discusses this in his article titled Why did God tell the Jews to kill the Canaanites? He writes:

The book of Joshua presents most readers with a troubling question: how can a God of love command his followers to destroy an entire nation of people? The Canaanites had lived in their land for centuries before Joshua and his people came to claim it for themselves. While some in Canaan fought against God’s people and were destroyed as a result (cf. the battle of Ai, 8:14ff), others did not attempt armed aggression against Israel. The people of Jericho, for instance, retreated inside their city walls and mounted no attack against the Jews. Nonetheless, following divine orders, the Israeli soldiers “destroyed with the sword every living thing in it—men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep and donkeys” (6:21).

His answer is that it was divine retribution against the sinful Canaanites. Still to genocide a people simply because they are sinful sounds rather extreme. However, we may look at these genocidal Israelites from another perspective. Various Christian researchers of Nephilim and UFOs have come to the conclusion that there was genetic manipulation “in the days of Noah”. One of them is Rob Skiba. I’m most familiar of this theory from Michael Tsarion who claims to have found evidence on gene splicing in Celtic myths. Perhaps these mass slaughters perpetrated by the ancient Israelites were quite different to the genocide perpetrated by modern Jews. Let’s say the Israelites were racially pure, whereas the other races destroyed by them had been tainted by unwholesome genetics. What the Israelites did may not have been pleasant, yet it was like putting down a rabid dog. Many races in those times had been tainted by Nephilim/ ET/ demon/ reptilian-genes and had to be wiped out. The Israelites were not.

Since I am not a Christian and certainly not a Jew, one might ask why am I defending genocidal old stories those religions are based on? Regardless of my sentiments on the Abrahamic religions I recognize that there are several esoteric insights and truths to the Bible. I wouldn’t say it’s a holy book, but a significant book in many ways and much can be learned from it. Michael Tsarion said something like the stories of the Old Testament did not happen in the Middle-East, but on the continent of Lemuria long, long time ago. The stories were culturally adapted to fit them into the Middle-East. I am very much intrigued by this notion.

An old holy man named Tim Bence was interviewed by Rob Skiba, and Tim Bence told stories from across the world were he ran into Canaanite altars that were corrupting the land and the people around it. Bence destroyed many of them and things got better. Even though he is very devoutly Christian, I believe in the veracity of his stories.

Let’s get back to business. Who were the ancient Israelites, the modern Jews and the tainted races of old? I think many of the modern Jews are descendants of the people the Israelites wanted to exterminate, but obviously failed to do. Over the course of Millennia they assumed the role of the Israelites and are now knows as Jews. There has been a reversal. The Jews are masquerading (most of them unwittingly, of course) as the people who used to cull them. Who were the Israelites then? Well, this is where it gets funny…

They might have been the Aryans. “The European people can be shown to be the true descendants of Israel” claims a blog called Aryan Israel. Someone known only as History Researcher, Australia says “they [Aryans] were proto-Israelites and destined to be the model peoples for the rest of humanity.” There are merely a couple of websites I found with simple googling, so I am not saying this is definitely the truth, yet often the truth is more fucked up and ironic than fiction. Since the end of the Second World War we have been presented with the scenario where the Aryan Nazis are the hateful bad guys that want to annihilate the poor, defenseless Jews. However clear facts point out that Jews certainly are not so innocent and defenseless as can be seen from modern Israel, and that the mistreatment of the Jews by the Nazis during the war has been greatly exaggerated. (For example it seems the Final Solution was only Allied propaganda, and Nazis wanted to send Jews to Palestine peacefully before the war was started by Britain.)

Let’s assume for a while that the ancient Israelites were the same as the Aryans who conquered India, and probably traveled to many other places too. In fact there is someone called Dr. Samar Abbas from India who theorizes that “The Hebrews belong to a branch of Vedic Aryans”. According to him there are many similar words to Sanskrit and Hebrew. Perhaps the Aryans conquered India since they knew the seed of the Archons were hiding there? Yet somehow over time the Jews were able to infiltrate the Israelites/ Aryans and hi-jack their identity like a faceless manipulator.

These are my crazy racist ramblings for today. Have a nice day.



Why did God tell the Jews to kill the Canaanites?: http://www.denisonforum.org/faith-questions/21-bible/51-why-did-god-tell-the-jews-to-kill-the-canaanites

Mythology and the Coming Great Deception (Rob Skiba): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsdgRxvB_jE

Canaanite Altars & The Federal Reserve – Tim Bence – Rob Skiba – Revolutionary Radio: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDlN-U6p7UA

Aryan Israel: http://aryanisrael.wordpress.com/

WHO ARE THE ARYANS?: http://www.ensignmessage.com/whoareAryans.html

Hebrews And Vedic Brahmins, Samar Abbas: http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7611