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The Invisible Curve

I saw a Youtube video yesterday by Marty Leeds addressing another video from Cody Labs channel. The Cody Labs video supposedly demonstrated the curve of the earth by showing a tall chimney in the distance filmed a long distance away from a flat-looking sandy beach. The bottom of the chimney was not visible, which according to Cody means it’s hidden behind the curvature. Whereas Marty Leeds, referring to claims by other flat earthers, ODD TV and Rob Skiba, suggest the bottom part of the chimney is obscured due to atmospheric lensing.


Flats and Slopes

What ever the effect that obscures the bottom part of buildings at a distance is called is one thing, but I’m doubtful they’ve hidden behind any curve of the earth. I’ve seen plenty of videos people claiming something is obscured by earth’s curve, and I’ve noticed one thing that seems in common with them: they usually show a flat plane that suddenly just drops down. The land looks flat, there is no curve visible with the eye. No-one ever sees it with they naked eye, yet it’s supposedly there.

To illustrate what I mean, I made this illustration (the small stick-figure observer is on the left, and the chimney on the right):

On the left side image is how all of these curvature demonstration videos that I’ve seen tend to be, and on the right is how it allegedly is. This is assuming that the chimney, or another building, is obscured by the curve. This applies whether we are talking about a video taken over land or water. The land always looks flat, not necessarily perfectly flat, but certainly not round, but magically when you go far enough the earth supposedly curves. We never see the visibly round earth of the illustration on the right. There are round hills on the earth. I’ve seen them. You can see they are round, but the earth’s curvature is like an elusive fairy, always lurking just beyond your eyesight, yet it’s there. They assure us it’s there, at least.

Another thing I just thought of is, if the earth is curved, and buildings far away from us curve away, then shouldn’t the top of the building always be further away from us than the bottom? Like in the illustration above, the top of the chimney is leaning away from us. I suppose someone could test this somehow, are buildings far away from us leaning away?

I am sure a spherical earther would answer the conundrum of the invisible curve to say that the earth is so big that we don’t see the curve. I would ask them then, how do they know it’s curved then? The earth’s curve never looks curved. It’s always flat until there is a sudden slope down at a distance. Based on these claims and observations the earth would be shaped more like this:


Except that we don’t really see the angle or the slope. It looks flat, but it’s not. Let’s say that Cody was standing on number 8, and taking pictures of the chimney which is at number 10. If he was to walk from 8 to 10, would he experience a sudden slope down at some point? I don’t think so.

Even if land was somehow curved despite not being visible to the naked eye, water certainly is not. Water does not curve, which means are not living on a ball that has a surface of 70% water.


Ad Hominems

Marty Leeds also requested that someone answer the question, how far up do you have to go to see the curvature. And that people did so without trying to dodge the question by addressing another question, or by berating the flat earther with ad hominem insults. This is a nice approach, even if it is increasingly rare. Cody Labs was a rare exception in that he seemed polite and professional even if I disagree with his conclusions.

To illustrate a more common approach to tackling flat earth research we can go this video titled “The Earth is a Sphere and Flat-Earthers are Worshipping the Anunnaki! with Peter Kling” from Russell Scott’s channel. I’ve never heard about Peter Kling or Russell Scott before, but the title basically says it all. According to the video since the Anunnaki of myth ruled over a flat domed earth, flat earthers that believe the earth is shaped like that are worshipping the Anunnaki. Of course the God of the Bible, or the gods of many other cultures ruled over a similar earth as well, but let’s not put facts in the way of a convenient guilt trip narrative. Another claim I’ve heard is that flat earth is like a gnostic secret. When you’ve “indoctrinated” into the flat earth narrative then you’re indoctrinated into a gnostic secret that makes you feel better than others. No, that’s not it at all. Flat earth is the common sense observation, the spinning heliocentric earth is the “gnostic” narrative you learn from high priests of science but have no way of verifying for yourself.

I’d just like someone to actually demonstrate curvature. Show it. Don’t show curious facts, such as ships disappearing behind the horizon and claim it’s due to the curvature. If the earth is a curved ball, they should have no problem demonstrating it with modern technology. Alas, no such thing has ever been made.

I suppose I have to point out that the pictures from NASA are not photographs, they are photoshopped. This is admitted by NASA. Moreover, we all know the earth is pear shaped anyway. Curves work different on a pear than on a ball, apparently.



Measuring Earth’s Radius With A Telescope?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcdBFfoi3uU

We Need to Talk About Flat Earth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xJKmKj3Vtk

The Earth is a Sphere and Flat-Earthers are Worshipping the Anunnaki! with Peter Kling: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snHKEnuB64w&t=

The Infamous NASA Tether Incident with UFOs

Anyone who has watched several videos on the UFO phenomenon has probably seen the NASA STS-75 tether experiment video with weird floating things around a stick (allegedly) in space. UFO researchers usually describe the floating things as UFOs. The official explanation, apparently, is that they are debris illuminated by the sun. I don’t believe in either explanation.


Back when I saw the video, 10 years ago or so, I didn’t know what to think of it. The “UFOs” looked more like jellyfish, amoebas, or at least something organic, whereas as my preconception was if they were UFOs they should be round, metallic flying saucers. The whole video confused me. Back then me, and many other conspiracy minded people, expected NASA to have a Secret Space Program of some sort, and possibly be hiding an extraterrestrial presence.

Nowadays, myself, and many others (which is a good reason to remain skeptical of this concept as well), question whether NASA really ever had anything to do with space exploration, except maybe faking the notion that they really do send astronauts and probes out into space. There are also some videos suggesting that some, if not all, of the footage supposedly showing astronauts in space were actually filmed underwater. With this in mind, the tether experiment starts to make more sense.


The Official Story

Before I explain what I think is going on in the video, I’m going to go over some official facts about the tether experiment. The STS-75 mission was conducted between February and March of 1996. The primary objective was to put a Tethered Satellite System into orbit and attach a tether, or a cable, to it. The more specific objectives were according NASA’s website:

“[C]haracterize the current-voltage response of the TSS-orbiter system, characterize the satellites high-voltage sheath structure and current collection process, demonstrate electric power generation, verify tether control laws and basic tether dynamics, demonstrate the effect of neutral gas on the plasma sheath and current collection, characterize the TSS radio frequency and plasma wave emissions and characterize the TSS dynamic-electrodynamic coupling.”

On top of that they also flew a “Microgravity Payload (USMP3-)designed to investigate materials science and condensed matter physics.” I don’t really know what all of these things mean. I’m no astrophysicist. I also don’t know if the experiment actually occurred or not, and whether it was a complete hoax or not.

Wikipedia and NASA articles do not even mention the infamous UFO footage. Instead I had to go to RationalWiki to read what the official explanation for the UFOs is. It goes as follows:

“NASA mission video recordings of the tether experiment show what appear to be a number of bright objects swirling around the tether. Astronaut Franklin Chang-Diaz explained the bright spots seen near the tether were ‘a little bit of debris that kind of flies with us’ that was illuminated by the sun.”

The debris does look alive and somewhat autonomous, and not like inanimate debris, to me. But what do I know.


Underwater UFOs

Now that we got the official story out of the way, I can discuss what I think is going on in the video. I am talking about the video now. I don’t know whether the actual STS-75 experiment occurred or not. Perhaps the experiment did take place, but the video was hoaxed for whatever reason.

Anyway, I already mentioned that the video looks like there are amoebas or other organic lifeforms in it. I think the video was filmed underwater. I have two different scenarios on it. How the “debris” or the “UFOs” move looks like they are alive to me. One scenario is that the footage was actually filmed up there in what is usually called space, but instead of an empty void up there, there is actually water up there as the Bible suggests. If there is water up there, clearly NASA isn’t telling everything about it, so there might be some sort of nautical lifeforms up there as well.

The second, and more likely, scenario is that the footage was filmed in a bucket full of water under a microscope. There tether in the picture is not actually some huge thing out in space, but a small needle in a pool of water. With a microscope shooting at it, it’s supposed to look big. The “UFOs” are actually some sort of microbial lifeforms that were either deliberately or accidentally released into the water. Perhaps NASA wanted to create this UFO controversy over the video for some reason, or a whistleblower wanted to sabotage the fake video.

Now that I look at the footage with new eyes, it looks like it’s underwater. I probably would not associate the video with outer space unless I had been told it.


Sex in Space

The Wikipedia article does not mention the alleged UFOs, but it does mention another interesting tidbit: an allegedly fraudulent NASA document that claimed STS-75 was studying sex in microgravity. Apparently “Document 12-571-3570” was published on a Usenet newsgroup in November 28, 1989. It claimed that:

“[A]stronauts aboard space shuttle mission STS-75 performed a variety of sex acts to determine which positions are most effective in zero gravity. The document goes on to report that of the 10 positions tested, six required the use of a belt and an inflatable tunnel, while four were contingent on hanging on. The document also discusses a video record of the 10 one-hour sessions in the lower deck of the shuttle, and notes that the subjects added their own personal footnotes to help scientists.”

This document was published in 1989, seven years before the “real” STS-75 tether experiment. I don’t know if these claims of sex in space were just a joke, or other kind of hoax, or if there is any truth behind it. I don’t even know whether NASA, or any other human agency, has ever gone into space or not. If all the claims of going to space are false, then claims of studying sex in space would be false too. However, I don’t find Wikipedia’s logic for debunking the document very convincing: “The real STS-75 mission occurred in 1996, 7 years after the text was published, and consisted of an all-male crew, clearly indicating that the document is a hoax.”

I don’t think seven male astronauts, many of whom are probably Freemasons or other Luciferians occultists, having sex with each other is a far-out concept. Perhaps the goal of NASA is to boldly sodomize where no-man has sodomized before. Maybe the Microgravity Payload aboard the shuttle referred to microgravity cumload.



Whatever the truth behind the “sex in space” document is, I don’t find either of the usual explanations on the tether video plausible. I don’t think the pulsating things are spaceships, nor do I think they are merely debris. I think the whole thing was filmed underwater for whatever reason.


EDIT: I found a Youtube video saying similar things about the tether video. They beat me to it by a week. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5buFZr5huI



STS-75: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STS-75

STS-75: https://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/missions/sts-75/mission-sts-75.html

STS-75 incident: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/STS-75_incident

Document 12-571-3570: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Document_12-571-3570

The tether incident: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XDgDYDDhyA


How does Water curve?

Last summer I was sitting at the table at my friend’s cabin looking at the wide river or estuary. The water was very flat despite flowing forward. I said out loud to my friends: “If the earth is round, why is the water so flat?” Back then I had already done some research on the concept of flat earth, but was still very much on the fence. I’m still on the fence, since I need some new hard evidence to convince me that the earth truly is flat instead of internet conjecture, but I am very doubtful of the heliocentric spinning ball model.

Last week I went on a large cruise ship between Finland and Estonia and I was reminded of the flatness of the sea. Here is a very ordinary picture of the sea. Looks flat to me.


Yet when we see a picture of the spherical earth, the water seems curved. This does not make sense. How does water bend like that? It doesn’t, water always becomes flat and level unless an external force makes it move.


Is there an external force forcing water to bend like that? Does gravity do that? If that is so, is there any actual pictorial evidence that water bends like that other than composite images from NASA taken from extreme distance? Can you demonstrate the water curve under laboratory conditions? The whole idea of water forming convex shapes is absurd.

I am not suggesting this necessarily means the earth is flat, but that water is, and that fact would suggest that the earth is not round. At least not in the sense we are told.